Stuck in the Middle with You

Episode 22: O. S. Hawkins

O. S. Hawkins joins Ben and Mark to discuss changes in Baptist pastoral ministry over the last five decades. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Episode 21: More Chaos at Lifeway

Ben and Mark discuss the latest issues plaguing Lifeway Christian Resources. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Episode 20: Baptist identity and confessional clarity: A conversation with Curtis Freeman and Malcolm Yarnell

Ben and Mark talk with Baptist theologians Malcolm Yarnell and Curtis Freeman about Baptist identity and a recent high profile departure from the SBC. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Episode 19: Can Baylor University have it both ways? The ongoing conflicts of pursuing Tier One status while maintaining Texas Baptist ties

Ben and Mark discuss the recent kerfuffle at Baylor University over a rescinded research grant, and where the University's aspirations meet Baptist reality. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Episode 18: A conversation with Professor Carl Kell about the power and strategy of pulpit rhetoric to reinvent and reform the SBC

Ben and Mark sit down with Carl Kell, retired Professor Emeritus of Communication at Western Kentucky University, to discuss the state of pulpit preaching in the SBC and Kell's upcoming fifth book, "Requiem: In Remembrance of the Southern Baptist Convention." Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Episode 17: After Dallas: What happened and didn't happen at the SBC Annual Meeting

Ben and Mark conduct a postmortem on the 2025 SBC Annual Meeting in Dallas. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Episode 16: SBC Preview

Ben and Mark give a preview of what to expect at the upcoming SBC Annual Meeting in Dallas. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Episode 15: What Happened While We Were Gone

Ben and Mark discuss a range of church affairs, including the SBC's Cooperative Program, a rocky pastoral transition at Second Baptist Houston, abuse at Camp Kanakuk, the use of NDAs, the resurrection of Southwestern Baptist, the future of international seminary students, the latest church stats from Ryan Burge, church finances and enrollment, and the removal of Josh Buice from G3 Ministries. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Episode 14: Sunday School

Ben and Mark discuss their Sunday School experiences and what makes a Baptist church tick. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Episode 13: Post Inauguration Reflections

Ben and Mark discuss their opposite political views and how they see things 10 days after Trump's second inauguration. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.