Stuck in the Middle with You

Join BNG Executive Director Mark Wingfield and Benjamin Cole, ”The Baptist Blogger,” in a spirited discussion of the history, people and current issues facing the Southern Baptist Convention. Get the perspective from the right and the left, from the past and the present.

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Episodes

Friday Feb 20, 2026

In this episode, Mark and Ben sit down with Rev. Dr. Brian Kaylor, editor-in-chief of Word&Way and vice chair for the board of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, to discuss what Christian nationalism really means. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Wednesday Feb 18, 2026

In this episode, Mark and Ben discuss the tensions that arise in Baptist churches when pastoral authority collides with the priesthood of all believers. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Thursday Feb 12, 2026

In this episode, Mark and Ben butt heads over Southern Baptist reactions to the Trump Administration and what exactly the word "empathy" means in the Christian context. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Tuesday Jan 27, 2026

In this episode, Jon Bullock joins Mark and Ben to discuss the North American Mission Board's consistent lack of finanical transparency and accountability. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Wednesday Jan 21, 2026

In this episode, Mark and Ben seek common ground over what happened at a Minneapolis-Saint Paul Southern Baptist Church over the weekend. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Tuesday Jan 20, 2026

In this episode, Mark and Ben discuss the intersection of antisemitism, Jewish identity, Christian theology, and the state of Israel. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Wednesday Jan 14, 2026

In this episode, Mark and Ben discuss the changing landscape of religious media beyond the Baptist world. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Friday Jan 09, 2026

In this episode, Mark and Ben follow up with new revelations in the David Sills/Jennifer Lyell case, gray areas and conflicts of interest in the abuse survivor cause, and ongoing legal challenges in Christian contexts. Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Wednesday Dec 17, 2025

In this episode, Mark and Ben talk immigration, deportation, religious protest, and what the term "sanctuary" really means and when it should be applied in light of current action by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Support Baptist News Global by visiting BaptistNews.com.

Friday Dec 12, 2025

Newly released discovery documents reveal explosive details in former professor David Sills’ ongoing defamation suit against the SBC and others. BNG contributors David Bumgardner, Mallory Challis, and Rick Pidcock join the show for a roundtable discussion on the latest revelations of previously unknown facts about the SBC, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, and the sexual abuse allegations involving Sills and his former student, Jennifer Lyell.
Episode Resources:
GRACE Network
RAINN
Victim Connect Resource Center
Research Article from the European Journal of Psycho-Traumatology (2023) on the use of appeasement by abuse victims as a means of survival in risky/dangerous relationships

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Meet Ben and Mark

"Stuck in the Middle with You" is a dialogue between Benjamin Cole and Mark Wingfield. Both were born into Southern Baptist families in different generations and both have experience with the inner workings of the denomination.

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